Yes but it’s the ἀλλ’ἤ combo—quite illogical on its face—that stands in need of explanation. Whatever its origin I think it just has to be accepted as a linguistic quirk.Statistics: Posted by mwh — Thu May 16, 2024 7:26 pm
Yes but it’s the ἀλλ’ἤ combo—quite illogical on its face—that stands in need of explanation. Whatever its origin I think it just has to be accepted as a linguistic quirk.Statistics: Posted by mwh — Thu May 16, 2024 7:26 pm
AdditionAlfred SchmollerHandkonkordanz zum griechischen Neuen Testament (14th ed 1968)https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/Sear … danz&sts=tStatistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:19 pm
Why not take ἀπαιτοῦσιν impersonally, like the λέγουσιν in Luke 20:41?Statistics: Posted by Vasile Stancu — Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:18 am
In the LXX/Septuaginta one finds (examples just for Genesis and Exodus) a: [ανα μεσον + Gen.Sg.] (Ex. 26:10) b: [ανα μεσον + Gen.Pl.] ; (Ex. 22:10; 25:22; 26:28; 28:33; 36:32;Gen. 15:17; 31:37; 31:53; 42:23; 49:14c: [ανα μεσον + Gen. + Gen.] (Ex. 11:7…
Good question. You’ve nearly got it. αυτόν is not the object but the subject of γεννῆσαι. μετὰ τὸ γεννῆσαι αὐτὸν τὸν Σάλα is a prepositional phrase meaning “after he (αυτὸν) begot Sala.” τὸ is the neuter article, here accusative, governed by μετά “aft…
φθονεῖτε καὶ ζηλοῦτε in 2 seems clearly right to me. (And then the φθόνος in 5 is all the less likely to be God’s.)Statistics: Posted by mwh — Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:07 pm
Many thanks Michael. It will never cease to amaze me how thoroughly horrible certain canonised individuals are in their writings… One would, perhaps naively, like to think that politeness would be a prerequisite for sainthood. Your comments are very…
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
ἀλλʼ ἤ seems to mean “but rather” in those verses. IMO, that would make ἤ here somewhat similar to the LSJ A.I.3 “or else, otherwise”, although not quite the same thing.How do the English bibles translate these verses?Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — …
Job 37:9 ἐκ ταμιείων ἐπέρχονται δῖναι ἀπὸ δὲ ἀκρωτηρίων ψῦχοςWhat is meant by ταμιείων?ταμιείων is the genitive of ταμεῖον/ταμιεῖον meaning treasury, magazineLuke 12:34 ταμεῖον storehouseMatthew 6:6 ταμιεῖόν closetMatthew 24:26 ταμείοις chambersDeuter…
Addition:why απ-αιτεω instead of αιτεω: the first you can’t refuse, the second you can.Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:10 pm
This passage isn’t quite like those other passages. The ones in your first list have the form ποιεῖν τινα +adj./subst. predicate, which is ποιεῖν.III in the LSJ. That is the “render so and so” type of use I mentioned.In your second list, one of these …
Thank you both for this thread, which was an eye-opener for me, too, for those exact reasons that @thestuffedowl explains. An accusative as the subject of a verb? Well, well. Whatever next!Statistics: Posted by BrianB — Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:58 pm
BTW the reason I want an *exhaustive* concordance of the GNT is so I can find instances of various pronouns and particles in NT verses. Then I can use suchverses to help me remember what a particular pronoun or particle means. For example, if I can fi…
I forgot to open the file as shared with everybody with the link!Now it is shared1Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:09 am
The adverbial construction απο + adverb with suffix -θεν (απο μακροθεν, απο πριωθεν, απο εμπροσθεν etc.) occurs about 20 times in LXX; in the NT απο μακροθεν 12 times, once απο ανωθεν in Mk 15:38), and in some Churchfathers.In Homer (Iliad 12:205 a…
1 Πόθεν πόλεμοι καὶ πόθεν μάχαι ἐν ὑμῖν οὐκ ἐντεῦθεν ἐκ τῶν ἡδονῶν ὑμῶν τῶν στρατευομένων ἐν τοῖς μέλεσιν ὑμῶν 2 ἐπιθυμεῖτε καὶ οὐκ ἔχετε φονεύετε καὶ ζηλοῦτε καὶ οὐ δύνασθε ἐπιτυχεῖν μάχεσθε καὶ πολεμεῖτε οὐκ ἔχετε διὰ τὸ μὴ αἰτεῖσθαι ὑμᾶς 3 αἰτεῖτε …
I see this forum is mostly discussing biblical Greek, but personally I’m mostly interested in Byzantine texts. I’m currently reading Etymologiarum by Isidore of Seville, and finding it very interesting and legible. I’d love to find something similar i…
I forgot to open the file as shared with everybody with the link!Now it is shared1Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:09 am