@mwhthanks for the attested απο πρωιθεν. I am surprised that the English translation (https://philipharland.com/greco-roman-a … -ii-i-bce/ ) of that instance has “previously” instead of “from the morning”.Indeed, the christian texts might very well …
Credit to Michael for arriving at the same independently. (Though I didn’t quite understand his comment about “the translation’s ‘uplifting'”, lol.)Maybe someone can post the exact manuscript text without all these (very very esteemed) editorial specu…
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
Yeah, I had a post written up about the earlier πεπηγμένος, but happily Chad’s post covered it first.I can get closer to the spelling, if you’d like.So αναγκη βιαια – irresistible necessity – would be great, but you would have to imagine a dropped ver…
Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:34 am
Brian, Yes φθόνος is perhaps invariably regarded as bad, and I don’t know if it’s ever attributed to God. In the famous “God is a jealous god” (Exod.20.5, Deut.4.24) the term used is ζηλωτής. In classical Greek, as in the NT, ζῆλος (as applied to huma…
Many thanks Michael. It will never cease to amaze me how thoroughly horrible certain canonised individuals are in their writings… One would, perhaps naively, like to think that politeness would be a prerequisite for sainthood. Your comments are very…
Thanks for that. I need to have more thinking. Would you suggest that it could mean “force” the way some translations render it?I should clarify my argument; I’m not suggesting it is “more accurate” translation. It is prophetic language after all. I…
Acts 7:7 has indeed δουλευσουσιν in NA28, but the ECM Acts has δουλευσωσιν (ECM III , 1:1 page 194).The text of Acts ECM will probably appear in the next na29.Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:53 am
dear Mitch,“ I *still* can’t remember all of it “I know very well how that feels! I had my last Greek-Lessons are 40 years ago. Even then I was horrible bad in Greek. Probably my old Greek-Teacher would be very astonished (and happy) to see, that now …
The two phrases do seem to me to be general (or generic or indefinite or habitual) conditionals but the verbs in both protases (οἰκοδομήσῃ and φυλάξῃ) are aorist (past) subjunctives not present subjunctives, and the verbs in the apodoses (ἐκοπίασαν an…
Hmm, I’m not sure it’s reported speech as I think maybe φησὶν here is intentional i.e. “The transgressor thinks (resolves) to sin” as per LSJ II b. And I was thinking that αὐτοῦ in ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “self” here, so ἐδόλωσεν ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “he disguis…
The Greek parallel that comes to mind for me is: “καὶ κατὰ γῆν καὶ κατὰ θάλατταν”. But the double-καί is necessary there.I see that when quoting these verses, many of the Greek writers like to drop the second ἀνὰ μέσον.For example, the non-Semitic Jul…
Hatch-Redpath suggests that they are, while Liddell & Scott suggests that they are not (both links below). In one case we find a single entry covering both words together, in the other case two separate brief entries explaining the words as respec…
Articular infinitiveThe αὐτόν is the subject of the infinitive and the genitive its objectStatistics: Posted by jeidsath — Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:36 pm
Good point Jean as the spatial interpretation of προς with accusative is towards, facing towards, against etc.Statistics: Posted by Mitch — Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:58 pm
His source, Billerbeck/Leberecht, for that “usual periphrasis” line relies on Luther’s unfortunate German translation to make its point:https://archive.org/details/kommentarzu … 0/mode/2upSo his argument as it stands doesn’t hold up.But I would agre…
ἀλλʼ ἤ seems to mean “but rather” in those verses. IMO, that would make ἤ here somewhat similar to the LSJ A.I.3 “or else, otherwise”, although not quite the same thing.How do the English bibles translate these verses?Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — …
Hi All,I am new here having just joined today. I am working to acquire some facility in Koine Greek. I already have some facility with Hebrew and have just begun with Latin.I am working my through and greatly enjoying Genesis in the LXX and there is s…
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