I think that the reader is probably supposed to understand the imagined event as a type spoken persuasion. But all the Greek says is that the beast “will make them so they’ll get put to death”. It’s not precise. Did the author imagine the beast orderi…
[Posted independently of Michael, whose post I will read in a moment.]Note: ὑπέδυς is 2nd personμηδ᾽ αἱρουμένης ποιεῖν ἑαυτῇ φίλους ἐκ τοῦ μαμωνᾶ τούτου τῆς ἀδικίαςnor choosing to make for herself friends using this mammon of unrighteousnessτοὺς ὅταν …
Thanks. επισταμαι : I never thought of that possibility!So it’s “being skilled with letters” > not able to read and write > being illiterate.These non-literary Papyri are very interesting texts, one can see, that the world in manny aspects hasn’…
OK thanks Michael but I’m actually trying to understand what’s happening grammatically here. If the sentence basically says “THIS is THAT” where THAT is a subject+predicate prefaced with οτι then what does one call this kind of syntactical constructio…
Credit to Michael for arriving at the same independently. (Though I didn’t quite understand his comment about “the translation’s ‘uplifting'”, lol.)Maybe someone can post the exact manuscript text without all these (very very esteemed) editorial specu…
Hi Mitch, Yes CGCG is an outstanding resource (though it came too late for me). You have a nice example of ὁποῖος in Paul’s autobiographical speech to Agrippa in Acts 26, which I always remember because it’s so egomaniacal: εὐξαίμην ἂν … πάντας τοὺς ἀ…
Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:34 am
You have two examples of the “but instead” meaning in the Psalm quote. I would say that neither appear to use an emphatic negative. And my post was an argument for *not* reading Luke 12:51 with this “but instead” translation. I suggest looking through…
Question: Is there a concordance of the Greek New Testament that’s similar in style to the Hatch and Redpath Concordance of the Septuaguint? i.e. which lists in alphabetical order every Greek word (including stop words which Perseus doesn’t index) fou…
Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:34 am
The adverbial construction απο + adverb with suffix -θεν (απο μακροθεν, απο πριωθεν, απο εμπροσθεν etc.) occurs about 20 times in LXX; in the NT απο μακροθεν 12 times, once απο ανωθεν in Mk 15:38), and in some Churchfathers.In Homer (Iliad 12:205 a…
Credit to Michael for arriving at the same independently. (Though I didn’t quite understand his comment about “the translation’s ‘uplifting'”, lol.)Maybe someone can post the exact manuscript text without all these (very very esteemed) editorial specu…
Is that the only instance, where the Greek απο μακροθεν exactly fits to the Hebrew text?Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:11 pm
καὶ τὸν πεπηγμένον ἐξ ἀνεδράστων ἀνάγει ἡ γῆ βεβαία καὶ ἁρμονία σοφίαςAnd the solid ground and jointure/”harmony” of wisdom uplifts the affixed [cross of light] from unstable [things; perhaps the list that follows].Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Tue…
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
A nice try Joel. Chad noted the cross was fixed (πεπηγμένος) at the beginning of the section, so there can’t be much doubt about τὸν πεπηγμένον here—a different conception from the walking talking cross of the Gospel of Peter, but evidently reflecting…
dear Mitch,“ I *still* can’t remember all of it “I know very well how that feels! I had my last Greek-Lessons are 40 years ago. Even then I was horrible bad in Greek. Probably my old Greek-Teacher would be very astonished (and happy) to see, that now …
A quick search suggests a change in vocabulary over time rather than any difference in nuance. ἐπίστασθαι is less common (~ 50 hits) and seldom occurs after the Ptolemaic era.μὴ εἰδέναι γράμματα occurs 343 times in published documents but only very ra…
I see this forum is mostly discussing biblical Greek, but personally I’m mostly interested in Byzantine texts. I’m currently reading Etymologiarum by Isidore of Seville, and finding it very interesting and legible. I’d love to find something similar i…
Hi all, now that the weekend has come, I’ve had a chance to look up the underlying sources, and they lean heavily in favour of Michael’s initial view (although not exactly the same). I’ve written up my notes below, in case of interest to others.This p…