Thanks Jean, after checking it out on Archive.org it looks like volume 1 of the Analytical Concordance is what I’m looking for. But I can’t figure out what volume 2 is about, it just looks like an endless stream of phrases with xrefs but no headings–…
Hi Michael yes I also have BAGD on my bookshelf and consult it from time to time. Having read through Mark and Matthew in the GNT I’m now slowly working through Psalms in the LXX and when I hit an unfamiliar word I check different lexicons in the foll…
I’d take this as meaning something like “As to jealousy he longs for the spirit that he implanted in us.” The subject of επιποθεῖ must surely be God, and το πνεῦμα must surely be its object. I really don’t see much room for doubt about that. The diffi…
Thank you both for this thread, which was an eye-opener for me, too, for those exact reasons that @thestuffedowl explains. An accusative as the subject of a verb? Well, well. Whatever next!Statistics: Posted by BrianB — Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:58 pm
1 Πόθεν πόλεμοι καὶ πόθεν μάχαι ἐν ὑμῖν οὐκ ἐντεῦθεν ἐκ τῶν ἡδονῶν ὑμῶν τῶν στρατευομένων ἐν τοῖς μέλεσιν ὑμῶν 2 ἐπιθυμεῖτε καὶ οὐκ ἔχετε φονεύετε καὶ ζηλοῦτε καὶ οὐ δύνασθε ἐπιτυχεῖν μάχεσθε καὶ πολεμεῖτε οὐκ ἔχετε διὰ τὸ μὴ αἰτεῖσθαι ὑμᾶς 3 αἰτεῖτε …
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
Hi Jean, I think then I’ll skip volume 2 then as I’ve found CGCG *very* helpful in learning endings and other morphology e.g. one doesn’t have to memorize all the weird exceptions if one simply learns the various phonological changes that occurred in …
Greetings! I’m here to call upon the collective wisdom of this forum regarding a particularly tricky (at least for me) passage in one of Gregory Palamas’ Antirrhetikoi against Gregory Akindynos. I’ll drop the entire passage below, along with my attemp…
Thanks Jean, after checking it out on Archive.org it looks like volume 1 of the Analytical Concordance is what I’m looking for. But I can’t figure out what volume 2 is about, it just looks like an endless stream of phrases with xrefs but no headings–…
Even clearer would be Ecclesiastes 12:7, or Job 1:21: “καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα ἐπιστρέψῃ πρὸς τὸν θεόν, ὃς ἔδωκεν αὐτό”, or “αὐτὸς γυμνὸς ἐξῆλθον ἐκ κοιλίας μητρός μου, γυμνὸς καὶ ἀπελεύσομαι ἐκεῖ· ὁ κύριος ἔδωκεν, ὁ κύριος ἀφείλατο.” But God’s ultimate agency …
Sorry, I can’t get the “Image” thing to display properly. Here’s the link:https://www.artic.edu/artworks/142244/t … r-tiberiusStatistics: Posted by BrianB — Sat May 04, 2024 1:51 pm
Hi all, now that the weekend has come, I’ve had a chance to look up the underlying sources, and they lean heavily in favour of Michael’s initial view (although not exactly the same). I’ve written up my notes below, in case of interest to others.This p…
Is there an example φημι used that way with an articular infinitive or a genitive? It seems odd to me, but maybe it’s an LXX thing.And you’d have to show me some usage examples of ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ used like that. The “disguise in front of himself” idiom …
Acts 7:7 has indeed δουλευσουσιν in NA28, but the ECM Acts has δουλευσωσιν (ECM III , 1:1 page 194).The text of Acts ECM will probably appear in the next na29.Statistics: Posted by Jean Putmans — Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:53 am
Here’s Polybius with an aorist of the same verb, taking a dative object. After laying out the main points of the treaty:Ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ὑπετυπώθη τότε κεφαλαιωδῶς περὶ τῶν διαλύσεων· ἔδει δὲ τούτοις πρῶτον μὲν εὐδοκῆσαι τοὺς Αἰτωλούς, μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα γίνε…
1 Πόθεν πόλεμοι καὶ πόθεν μάχαι ἐν ὑμῖν οὐκ ἐντεῦθεν ἐκ τῶν ἡδονῶν ὑμῶν τῶν στρατευομένων ἐν τοῖς μέλεσιν ὑμῶν 2 ἐπιθυμεῖτε καὶ οὐκ ἔχετε φονεύετε καὶ ζηλοῦτε καὶ οὐ δύνασθε ἐπιτυχεῖν μάχεσθε καὶ πολεμεῖτε οὐκ ἔχετε διὰ τὸ μὴ αἰτεῖσθαι ὑμᾶς 3 αἰτεῖτε …
It’s the difference between lower and lowest, but in some contexts that’s not a significant difference.Statistics: Posted by mwh — Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:29 pm
Well, you’ve come across a good reason to know Greek. I wonder if this is a nasty case of Bible translators being in a rut because they look over each other’s shoulders for the hard bits? Though RSV and a few others are a bit more exact, I see. “…un…
It looks as if it came into NT from LXX, and didn’t spread much further. That wouldn’t be too remarkable would it?(SEG 31.983 has απο πρωιθεν, II/I BCE.)Statistics: Posted by mwh — Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:35 pm
Here’s Polybius with an aorist of the same verb, taking a dative object. After laying out the main points of the treaty:Ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ὑπετυπώθη τότε κεφαλαιωδῶς περὶ τῶν διαλύσεων· ἔδει δὲ τούτοις πρῶτον μὲν εὐδοκῆσαι τοὺς Αἰτωλούς, μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα γίνε…