Acts 10:48 (was Question) Harold R. Holmyard III hholmyard at ont.com Thu Apr 20 19:54:47 EDT 2006  Question  Acts 10:48 (Was Question) Dear CJ,>I’m not sure if this has been covered or not seeing as I have at LEAST 50 of>these emails to go through but this question has been nagging…
 Actes 10: 39 syntax around the passion of Christ Sonny FROMMELT ovadyahf at hotmail.com Wed Apr 21 06:12:50 EDT 2004  Heb 1:4…KEKLHRONOMHKEN ONOMA  Actes 10: 39 syntax around the passion of Christ Actes 10: 39*We* also are witnesses of all things which he did both in the country of the Jews…
 Acts 22,17;18A Eddie Mishoe edmishoe at yahoo.com Thu Apr 8 23:31:21 EDT 2004  Acts 22,6  Acts 22,17;18A EGENETO DE MOI hUPOSTREYANTI EIS IEROUSALHM KAIPROSEUCOMENOU MOU EN TWi hIERWi GENESQAI ME ENEKSTASEI, KAI IDEIN AUTON LEGONTA MOI, SPEUSON KAIEXELQE EN TACEI EX IEROUSALHM,PROSEUCOMENOU MOU is identified as a Genitive Absolutebecause its subject…
ICHQUS Theodore H Mann thmann at juno.com Tue May 25 21:50:57 EDT 1999 hOTI clause Acts 17:18 ICHQUS I guess this is an OK question for the list, if anyone cares to respond. What is the story behind the supposed use of the acronym, ICHQUS, as anearly symbol for Christianity? Many thanks.Dr. Theodore “Ted”…
 Acts 16:34 newsgroupstuff at swiftdsl.com.au newsgroupstuff at swiftdsl.com.au Thu Jul 1 19:06:55 EDT 2004  Re: Funk’s Grammar  Acts 16:34 KAI HGALLIASATO PANOIKI PEPISTEUKWS TW QEWIn KJV it renders this ‘and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.’In this sense, it puts PANOIKI with PEPISTEUKWS. Is it possible to translateit ‘and…
Acts 2.37 – AKOUSANTES Dr. John S. Waldrip JWaldrip at Baptists.Org Mon Sep 16 03:28:49 EDT 2002 BDAG vs LS Romans 8:28 and “in” all things ersI can’t find anyone who addresses the implications of AKOUSANTES in Acts2.37 except the old Puritan, Thomas Hooker.Does this aorist active participle justify suggesting a period of timepassing between…
Acts 16:25 L.Ouzky at atlas.cz L.Ouzky at atlas.cz Sat May 18 13:02:37 EDT 2002 Books for Beginners Apology PAULOS KAI SILAS PROSEUCOMENOI HUMNOUN TON QEONDoes it mean they sung unto God or about God?Thanks, Lubos Ouzky Books for BeginnersApology Acts 16:25 Wayne Leman wayne_leman at sil.org Sat May 18 14:40:27 EDT 2002 Apology Titus 2:12…
 Acts 5.16 NASB using “OR” for KAI kbent at comeoverandhelpus.com kbent at comeoverandhelpus.com Mon Jul 24 09:31:04 EDT 2006  Rom. 16:7: Junia or Junias?  Acts 5.16 NASB using “OR” for KAI Dear Friends: I a lurking novice, but I have a question nontheless. I noticed thatthe NASB in Acts 5.16 translates KAI…
 Acts 2:46 daily common meal? Laurence Schell laurenceschell at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 14 17:55:56 EDT 2003  ASQENESTERWi in 1Peter 3  Acts 2:46 daily common meal? To the list members: Does kaq in Acts 2:46: kaq hmeran te proskarterountes omoqumadon en tw ierw, klwntes te kat oikon arton, metelambanon trofhs en agalliasei kai…
Acts 1:10 John M. Moe John.M.Moe-1 at tc.umn.edu Tue May 11 06:30:28 EDT 1999 Greek Vocabulary Builder Mark 3.1 At Acts. 1:10 POREUOMENOU AUTO is consistently taken as a genitiveabsolute with temporal connotation “as He went up” (NKJV). It seems abit awkward since the verse already has a temporal expression hWSATENIZONTES. My question: could…
 Acts 2:17 dream: deponens or passive? Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu Tue Apr 27 17:11:28 EDT 2004  Very interesting GNT, _A Readers Greek New Testament_  Acts 2:17 dream: deponens or passive? Forwarded for: “Hessel + Coby Visser” <hessel.visser at sil.org>To: “Carl W. Conrad” <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>Subject: Acts 2:17 dream: deponens…
Acts 20:28 Whose blood? Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu Tue Mar 30 11:38:27 EST 1999 the usage of PROGINOSKW in 1 Pet 1:2&20 Perseus fonts From: GregStffrd at aol.comDate: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:33:15 ESTTo: cwconrad at artsci.wustl.eduCc: church at elp.rr.com, at franklin.oit.unc.edu>Subject: Re: Acts 20:28 Whose blood?Since I discuss this text at length…
Acts 2:6 dano at ott.net dano at ott.net Thu May 6 09:51:52 EDT 1999 MENOUN in Luke 11.28 Acts 2:6 MENOUN in Luke 11.28Acts 2:6 Acts 2:6 Jack Kilmon jkilmon at historian.net Thu May 6 11:03:17 EDT 1999 Acts 2:6 Acts 2:6 dano at ott.net wrote:> >From one of the many lurkers…
APAGW in ACTS 12:19 clayton stirling bartholomew c.s.bartholomew at worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 4 08:32:54 EDT 1998 Jn.3:8 PNEUMA, PNEI, FONHN Wisdom of Sirach The most common way to understand the phrase EKELEUSEN APACQHNAI in Acts 12:19is that Herod gave an order for the guards to be executed. I don’t think thelexical evidence or the…
Pat Ferguson wrote:
ΑΠΟΦΕΡΕΣΘΑΙ (αποφερεσθαι) appears in some mss (P38 P74 01 02 03 08 33 323 945 1175 1241 1739; cp. N-A²⁸), and EPIΦΕΡΕΣΘΑΙ (επιφερεσθαι) appears in other source documents (05 18 020 044 424 614 1505).
Also, αποφερεσθαι appears in the translations of Alford, Lachmann, Tischendorf, and Tregelles at Acts 19:12. But επιφερεσθαι is seen in TR, and in the works of Griesbach and Scholz. Both words are pres. inf. pass. according to Moulton, Analytical Greek Lexicon-Revised (Bagster & Sons, London 1977; Zondervan, Grand Rapids 1978).
Personally, I read Acts 19:12 to say something like: so that even handkerchiefs or aprons from his skin were brought [and applied]* to those who were sick.
* Cp. Moulton, et al.
I assume by “translations of Alford, Lachmann, Tischendorf, and Tregelles” you are referring to their edited critical texts of the NT.
Looks like the New Living Translation is in agreement with my reading ot the text in Bezae. I am sure they didn’t use Bezae as their vorlage. The idea being a transfer of some object which made physical contact with the miracle worker to physical contact with the person needing the miracle.
Acts 19:12 NLT When handkerchiefs or aprons that had merely touched his skin were placed on sick people, they were healed of their diseases, and evil spirits were expelled. Source: BibleGateway
It seems to me this is the plain meaning of the text, not a fanciful extrapolation.
Statistics: Posted by Stirling Bartholomew — January 11th, 2014, 9:54 pm
Stephen, perfect explanation. I got it.
In the case of Acts 26:16b-17, I should have known that
the relative pronoun, as an anaphoric pronoun like “this”, “that”, “it”, “they”, etc,
can refer to anything that has been introduced to the context so far,
as long as the reader can identify the referent.
I should have remembered the class I once took about “discourse analysis” ^^
Statistics: Posted by moon — June 10th, 2014, 5:20 am
Louis L Sorenson wrote:
Stephen wroteσυμφέρω in the next verse suggests movement.
Yes, that is what I thought. Movement is surely involved because they all brought their magical books to the same pile to burn.
But I also think ‘ἦλθον ὀμολογούμενοι’ is odd. It’s missing something (εἰς, πρός, κτλ. The default usage is like Mk 1.45 ἐξῆλθον ἐκ τῆς πόλεως καὶ ἤρχοντο πρὸς αὐτόν.). Perhaps the problem (where I’m led astray) is the English use where ‘began’ has to be a modal auxiliary verb.
Carl wrote:And to underscore that, wouldn’t an imperfect for ἄρχομαι here be odd? “They kept on beginning”?
But cf. Thucydides 1.25.4(ᾗ
καὶ μᾶλλον ἐξηρτύοντο τὸ ναυτικὸν καὶ ἦσαν οὐκ ἀδύνατοι·
τριήρεις γὰρ εἴκοσι καὶ ἑκατὸν ὑπῆρχον αὐτοῖς ὅτε ἤρχοντο
— would not we read that as ‘when they began to fight’? or is it ‘when they came to the fight’?
But then again, Luke likes to be ambiguous where he can. There are no textual variants here – so I guess I would go with the traditional rendering. For those who are trying to recreate a spoken Koine, this may be an example to avoid or rule to follow. i.e. use the aorist of ἄρχομαι with the infinitive, not the imperfect.
(1) Thucydides’ account of the buildup to the Peloponnesian War is vivid in its description of the ongoing process, and the imperfects contribute to that: “And they kept outfitting the fleet all the more (and they were not wanting in military might: in fact, they had a hundred and twenty triremes at the time when they were just starting hostilities.”
(2) Luke’s description of this process is vivid too, although I don’t personally think it’s ambiguous. I’m reminded of vivid literary descriptions of Savonarola’s great conflagration of books in Florence’s Piazza della Signoria. Awesome and frightening, as is the course of events in Ukraine right now.
Statistics: Posted by cwconrad — March 2nd, 2014, 10:37 am
Stephen Carlson wrote:
As a matter of logic, “If you do X and Y, you will get Z” means that X and Y are sufficient for Z, not that they are necessary for Z. Occasionally, people imply “only if” with their conditionals (which makes it necessary rather than sufficient), but that is a matter of context and, I’m afraid in this case, theology. As a matter of language, it is not precise enough to settle without looking beyond the construction.
Imperative -> if -> only if, that is a lot of scafolding already.
Can anyone recall an example of this in Greek, which is very clearly not requiring both things (only if). Perhaps something like, “Smoke 5 packs of cigarettes per day, eat as much saturated fat as you can, never do exercise, and you will die before you’re 60”. Or an example that does seem to require them like, “Put the key in the lock, and turn the key, and the door will open”.
Statistics: Posted by Stephen Hughes — January 31st, 2014, 2:54 am
Tense of TETAGMENOI in Acts 13:48 clayton stirling bartholomew c.s.bartholomew at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 1 00:47:32 EDT 1999 KJV titles not available > Greetings everyone:> > I would appreciate some help in understanding the use of verb tense in> dependent clauses. The text reads; …KAI EPISTEUSAN OSOI HSAN> TETAGMENOI EIS ZWHN AIWNION. I take the…
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