Koine and Biblical and Medieval Greek • Re: Passive verb with object in Acts of John 98

I had a very similar thought to mwh about its unintelligibility, and was casually trying to figure it out during the sermon at church this morning, having looked up the context on TLG just before. There appears to be a divine voice of some kind talking to John:

...φωνὴν δὲ οὐ ταύτην τὴν ἡμῖν συνήθη, ἀλλά τινα ἡδεῖαν καὶ χρηστὴν καὶ ἀληθῶς θεοῦ, λέγουσαν πρός με·

It says:

Ἰωάννη, ἕνα δεῖ παρ’ ἐμοῦ ταῦτα ἀκοῦσαι· ἑνὸς γὰρ χρῄζω τοῦ μέλλοντος ἀκούειν. ὁ σταυρὸς οὗτος ὁ τοῦ φωτὸς ποτὲ μὲν λόγος καλεῖται ὑπ’ ἐμοῦ δι’ ὑμᾶς, ποτὲ δὲ νοῦς, ποτὲ δὲ Ἰησοῦς, ποτὲ Χριστός, ποτὲ θύρα, ποτὲ ὁδός, ποτὲ ἄρτος, ποτὲ σπόρος, ποτὲ ἀνάστασις, ποτὲ υἱός, ποτὲ πατήρ, ποτὲ πνεῦμα, ποτὲ ζωή, ποτὲ ἀλήθεια, ποτὲ πίστις, ποτὲ χάρις. ται μὲν ὡς πρὸς ἀνθρώπους· ὃ δὲ ὄντως ἐστίν, αὐτὸς πρὸς αὐτὸν νοούμενος καὶ εἰς ἡμᾶς λεγόμενος, διορισμὸς πάντων ἐστίν· καὶ τὸν πεπηγμένον ἐξ ἀνεδράστων ἀνάγγη βιάβα καὶ ἁρμονία σοφίας· σοφία δὲ οὖσα ἐν ἁρμονίᾳ ὑπάρχουσιν δεξιοὶ καὶ ἀριστεροί, δυνάμεις, ἐξουσίαι, ἀρχαὶ καὶ δαίμονες, ἐνέργειαι, ἀπειλαί, θυμοί, διάβολοι, Σατανᾶς καὶ ἡ κατωτικὴ ῥίζα, ἄφες τῶν γινομένων προῆλθεν φύσις.

It would be nice to see what this came from. The ται μὲν ὡς is the first bit of weirdness there. But following the feminine nouns, maybe it's αὗται. ἀνάγγη looks like ἀνάγκη, and the need of something to govern τὸν πεπηγμένον ἐξ ἀνεδράστων makes me want βιάβα to be some form of βεβαιόω. Let's make it βεβαιοῦσα

αὗται μὲν ὡς πρὸς ἀνθρώπους· ὃ δὲ ὄντως ἐστίν, αὐτὸς πρὸς αὐτὸν νοούμενος καὶ εἰς ἡμᾶς λεγόμενος, διορισμὸς πάντων ἐστίν· καὶ τὸν πεπηγμένον ἐξ ἀνεδράστων ἀνάγκη βεβαιοῦσα καὶ ἁρμονία σοφίας

"These are what [this cross of light] is to men, and what it really is, itself considering itself and told to us, is definition of all things, and a necessity making firm the fixed thing from the foundationless, and a harmony of wisdom."

I'm not really happy with αὗται, ἀνάγκη, or βεβαιοῦσα. But that's one sermon's worth of thinking from me.

Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:59 pm


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