1 John 2:6

καθὼς is correlative to the deictic adverb οὕτως which somewhat clumsily follows it, instead of preceding it. A more natural rendering would be as follows: ὁ λέγων ἐν αὐτῷ μένειν ὀφείλει οὕτως, καθὼς ἐκεῖνος περιεπάτησεν, καὶ αὐτὸς [οὕτως] περιπατεῖν. He who says that he abides in him should thus, as he walked, also himself walk. Statistics: Posted by Robert Crowe — November 15th, 2016, 10:49 pm
ὁ λέγων ἐν αὐτῷ μένειν ὀφείλει, καθὼς ἐκεῖνος περιεπάτησεν, καὶ αὐτὸς °οὕτως περιπατεῖν This is copied from NA28. When I read/translated this, it came out different to the Bible's I checked with. It seems to me that they are translating as if ὀφείλει belongs after the comma. WBC commentary also appears to me to treat the Greek in the same way— ὀφείλει after the comma. My Greek grammar/syntax is not yet that great, I wanted to ask: 1. Is my assessment of the situation correct? 2. Assuming this is correct, what creates room for the debate, is it around the question of if καθὼς is being placed before or after another word (postpositively? The grammatical term for this eludes my memory right now) Statistics: Posted by Jacob Rhoden — November 15th, 2016, 4:56 pm
 
moon jung wrote: In John 2:6, we have Ησαν δὲ εκιεῖ ὑδρίαι λίθιναι ἓξ κείμεναι κατὰ τὸν καθαρισμὸν τῶν Ιουδαίων, χωροῦσαι ανὰ μετρητὰς δύο ἠ τρεῖς. I wonder whether participles κείμεναι and χωροῦσαι are attributive or predicative. I would take both to be predicative. Any other opinions? Moon Jung.
Stirling Bartholomew wrote: I've been reading this in greek for quite a while and the question you just asked has never occurred to me.
I guess this means that these participles are predicative without question, because they do not have the article in front of them? Moon Jung Statistics: Posted by moon jung — July 16th, 2014, 1:13 am
I've been reading this in greek for quite a while and the question you just asked has never occurred to me. Statistics: Posted by Stirling Bartholomew — July 15th, 2014, 11:17 pm
In John 2:6, we have Ησαν δὲ εκιεῖ ὑδρίαι λίθιναι ἓξ κείμεναι κατὰ τὸν καθαρισμὸν τῶν Ιουδαίων, χωροῦσαι ανὰ μετρητὰς δύο ἠ τρεῖς. I wonder whether participles κείμεναι and χωροῦσαι are attributive or predicative. I would take both to be predicative. Any other opinions? Moon Jung Statistics: Posted by moon jung — July 15th, 2014, 8:33 pm