2 Cor. 3:18 Mike Sangrey msangrey at BlueFeltHat.org
Thu Jun 21 11:30:00 εδτ 2001
Intermediate Grammars Rev 4.11 (breaking of Sharp’s Rule) hHMEIS δε παντεσ ANAKEKALUMMENWi PROSWPWi θν δοχαν κυριου κατοπτριζομενοι θν αυθν εικονα μεταμορφουμεθα απο δοχησ εισ δοχαν, καθαπερ απο κυριου πνευματοσ.Could ημεισ δε παντεσ mean “We all (thought of as a group) …?Or should it mean “We all (thought of as individuals) …?What is the basis for determining the one or the other?Thanks ahead of time.– Mike Sangreymsangrey at BlueFeltHat.orgLandisburg, Pa. “The first one last wins.” “α net of highly cohesive details reveals the truth.”
Intermediate GrammarsRev 4.11 (breaking of Sharp’s Rule)
2 Cor. 3:18 Carl ω. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Jun 21 13:37:33 εδτ 2001
1 John 3:6a Rev 4.11 (breaking of Sharp’s Rule) At 11:30 αμ -0400 6/21/01, Mike Sangrey wrote:> hHMEIS δε παντεσ ANAKEKALUMMENWi PROSWPWi θν δοχαν κυριου κατοπτριζομενοι> θν αυθν εικονα μεταμορφουμεθα απο δοχησ εισ δοχαν, καθαπερ απο κυριου> πνευματοσ.> >Could ημεισ δε παντεσ mean “We all (thought of as a group) …?Yes. In this instance παντεσ qualifies hHMEIS “predicatively”–or ι mightsay, “adverbially” (although such description doesn’t seem to please somedescriptive linguists). So hHMEIS παντεσ means something like “withoutexception we …”>Or should it mean “We all (thought of as individuals) …?When a Hellenistic author wants to emphasize the distributive qualifications/he will probably write hHMEIS hEKASTOI, “we each of us individually …”where the hEKASTOI is perhaps οβερ-emphasized. Nevertheless, when theemphasis rests upon individual members of a group carrying out and actionor being in such-and-such a state, hEKASTOS may be used with a singularverb, or hEKASTOI with a plural verb.>What is the basis for determining the one or the other?ι hope that answers the question.– Carl ω. ConradDepartment of Classics/Washington UniversityHome: 7222 Colgate Ave./St. Louis, μο 63130/(314) 726-5649cwconrad at artsci.wustl.eduWWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/
1 John 3:6aRev 4.11 (breaking of Sharp’s Rule)