John 1:28

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1. "Dony K. Donev" says:

   Dony K. Donev Tue Aug 09 2005 12:14:56 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Is there a problem with the use of the plural TAUTA in combination with the singular EGENETO in John 1:28?

   Dony K. Donev Bob Firth Tue Aug 09 2005 02:38:46 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Show quoted text John 1:28 TAUTA EN BHQANIAi EGENETO PERAN TOU IORDANOU hOPOU HN hO IWANNHS BAPTIZWN

   According to Wallace, neuter plural subjects normally take a singular verb, so I would say no, there is not a problem. He goes on to explain that the neuter plural subject is often referring to a collective whole (in this case “these things” are not treated separately, but as a group). I hope that is helpful (and accurate).

   Bob Carl W. Conrad Tue Aug 09 2005 06:36:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   I would only add to this that the principle is standard in Classical Attic Greek: neuter plurals take singular verbs; this is regular in Classical Attic but is not universally observed by NT Koine writers; nevertheless it is standard and common. Show quoted text Carl W. Conrad Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus) 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243 cwconrad2 at mac.com WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/ [OP] Dony K. Donev Tue Aug 09 2005 16:48:37 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Should it be rendered as singular “collective” i.e. this thing happened or plural these things happened?

   Dony K. Donev

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     November 14, 2010 at 2:16 am
2. "Dony K. Donev" says:

   Dony K. Donev Tue Aug 09 2005 12:14:56 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Is there a problem with the use of the plural TAUTA in combination with the singular EGENETO in John 1:28?

   Dony K. Donev Bob Firth Tue Aug 09 2005 02:38:46 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Show quoted text John 1:28 TAUTA EN BHQANIAi EGENETO PERAN TOU IORDANOU hOPOU HN hO IWANNHS BAPTIZWN

   According to Wallace, neuter plural subjects normally take a singular verb, so I would say no, there is not a problem. He goes on to explain that the neuter plural subject is often referring to a collective whole (in this case “these things” are not treated separately, but as a group). I hope that is helpful (and accurate).

   Bob Carl W. Conrad Tue Aug 09 2005 06:36:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   I would only add to this that the principle is standard in Classical Attic Greek: neuter plurals take singular verbs; this is regular in Classical Attic but is not universally observed by NT Koine writers; nevertheless it is standard and common. Show quoted text Carl W. Conrad Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus) 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243 cwconrad2 at mac.com WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/ [OP] Dony K. Donev Tue Aug 09 2005 16:48:37 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

   Should it be rendered as singular “collective” i.e. this thing happened or plural these things happened?

   Dony K. Donev

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