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2 thoughts on “Matthew 12:1

  1. ProBible says:

    Doug Mounce asks: “Is the translation of Matthew 12:1 that Jesus’ disciples were plucking and eating corn on the Sabbath and Jesus wasn’t, or could the word “his” (disciples) refer to “themselves”? Was Jesus maintaining the letter of the law even while he denied its validity, or would such a distinction be consciously made on this verse?”

    I’m not sure what is being asked about AUTOU, which could not mean “themselves” because of the case. Probably making the distinction suggested is reading too much between the lines, but it seems clear from the context that Jesus was not plucking the grain himself (the Pharisees here and in the parallel passages– the plural POIEITE in Luke doesn’t seem contradictory–surely would have referred to Jesus’ actions if he were also plucking the grain). BTW, I should have said both case and number for AUTOU; Doug is probably not referring to the intensive use of AUTOS anyway.

    Don Wilkins UC Riverside

  2. ProBible says:

    Doug Mounce asks: “Is the translation of Matthew 12:1 that Jesus’ disciples were plucking and eating corn on the Sabbath and Jesus wasn’t, or could the word “his” (disciples) refer to “themselves”? Was Jesus maintaining the letter of the law even while he denied its validity, or would such a distinction be consciously made on this verse?”

    I’m not sure what is being asked about AUTOU, which could not mean “themselves” because of the case. Probably making the distinction suggested is reading too much between the lines, but it seems clear from the context that Jesus was not plucking the grain himself (the Pharisees here and in the parallel passages– the plural POIEITE in Luke doesn’t seem contradictory–surely would have referred to Jesus’ actions if he were also plucking the grain). BTW, I should have said both case and number for AUTOU; Doug is probably not referring to the intensive use of AUTOS anyway.

    Don Wilkins UC Riverside

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