Hmm, I’m not sure it’s reported speech as I think maybe φησὶν here is intentional i.e. “The transgressor thinks (resolves) to sin” as per LSJ II b. And I was thinking that αὐτοῦ in ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “self” here, so ἐδόλωσεν ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “he disguis…
Yeah, I had a post written up about the earlier πεπηγμένος, but happily Chad’s post covered it first.I can get closer to the spelling, if you’d like.So αναγκη βιαια – irresistible necessity – would be great, but you would have to imagine a dropped ver…
(as in Acts the journeys of Paul are clearly creatively constructed by someone trying to give a narrative to the names and places mentioned). .Joel, that prompts me to ask, what is your view of the “we” passages in Acts? For my part, they have always…
Thanks. επισταμαι : I never thought of that possibility!So it’s “being skilled with letters” > not able to read and write > being illiterate.These non-literary Papyri are very interesting texts, one can see, that the world in manny aspects hasn’…
BTW the reason I want an *exhaustive* concordance of the GNT is so I can find instances of various pronouns and particles in NT verses. Then I can use suchverses to help me remember what a particular pronoun or particle means. For example, if I can fi…
I thought that this might just be something to do with the poetry here, and looked at how ἀλλ’ ἤ gets used elsewhere. A quick scan through Genesis and the early books of the LXX shows it mostly being used in the “standard” way, to mean “unless” or “ex…
Here’s Polybius with an aorist of the same verb, taking a dative object. After laying out the main points of the treaty:Ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ὑπετυπώθη τότε κεφαλαιωδῶς περὶ τῶν διαλύσεων· ἔδει δὲ τούτοις πρῶτον μὲν εὐδοκῆσαι τοὺς Αἰτωλούς, μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα γίνε…
I see we have ἀλλ’ ἢ not only in 4 but already in 2, and it’s well attested in the Septuagint. It’s an oddity—seemingly no different from simple ἀλλά in sense, though it’s sometimes said to be “stronger.” I think there may well have been some sort of …
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
Zechariah 9:14 ἐν σάλπιγγι σαλπιεῖ καὶ πορεύσεται ἐν σάλῳ ἀπειλῆς αὐτοῦIn other verses ἀπειλή is used for גערה (Prov 13:8, Prov 17:10) and in Zechariah 9:14 there is סערות but also זעף/ἀπειλὴ (Prov 19:12) then it would appear סערות is being read as גע…
I had a very similar thought to mwh about its unintelligibility, and was casually trying to figure it out during the sermon at church this morning, having looked up the context on TLG just before. There appears to be a divine voice of some kind talkin…
Hmm, I’m not sure it’s reported speech as I think maybe φησὶν here is intentional i.e. “The transgressor thinks (resolves) to sin” as per LSJ II b. And I was thinking that αὐτοῦ in ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “self” here, so ἐδόλωσεν ἐνώπιον αὐτοῦ is “he disguis…
Maybe the reason for the passive translation is, that the evil will probably not volontarely get out of the way, but must be removed (by whom-/whatsover).Even mr Bill Mounce has questions regarding this text (https://www.billmounce.com/path/should-be-…
Hi all, now that the weekend has come, I’ve had a chance to look up the underlying sources, and they lean heavily in favour of Michael’s initial view (although not exactly the same). I’ve written up my notes below, in case of interest to others.This p…
Credit to Michael for arriving at the same independently. (Though I didn’t quite understand his comment about “the translation’s ‘uplifting'”, lol.)Maybe someone can post the exact manuscript text without all these (very very esteemed) editorial specu…
Thank you both for this thread, which was an eye-opener for me, too, for those exact reasons that @thestuffedowl explains. An accusative as the subject of a verb? Well, well. Whatever next!Statistics: Posted by BrianB — Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:58 pm
I think that the reader is probably supposed to understand the imagined event as a type spoken persuasion. But all the Greek says is that the beast “will make them so they’ll get put to death”. It’s not precise. Did the author imagine the beast orderi…
I’d take this as meaning something like “As to jealousy he longs for the spirit that he implanted in us.” The subject of επιποθεῖ must surely be God, and το πνεῦμα must surely be its object. I really don’t see much room for doubt about that. The diffi…
It’s just pulling in Byzantine majority corrections. Getting your textual criticism from CBGM is about as silly as getting it from chat-gpt, imo.We also have ἐὰν μή τις ὁδηγήσει με in 8:31, again “corrected” in Byzantine majority texts to subjunctive….
Here’s my translation of 2Th 2:1-12, with some notes. It makes a bit more sense to me now than the last time I looked at it. Hopefully it will make even more sense the next time I run across it, however many years from now. But who knows?Ἐρωτῶμεν δὲ ὑ…