Mark 7:4 Marty Livingston Just_A_Servant at yahoo.com Tue May 2 12:33:42 EDT 2000 Previous message: Hermas’s Masonry Next message: Hermas’s Masonry The word baptizo is used to refer to their tradition of washing tables. Previous message: Hermas’s MasonryNext message: Hermas’s Masonry More information about the mailing list Mark 7:4 Carl W. Conrad cwconrad…
[] Acts 2:41A LOGOS waldo slusher waldoslusher at yahoo.com Tue Jul 22 15:25:08 EDT 2003 [] Questions about Col 2:16+17 [] Acts 2:41A LOGOS hOI MEN OUN APODEXAMENOI TON LOGON AUTOU EBAPTISQHSANThe NET Bible has a footnote on this verse byindicating that the word translated here as “message”is “Grk ‘word’”.Dr. Larkin from University of…
Mark 6:22 Richard Ghilardi qodeshlayhvh at juno.com Tue Jan 1 23:25:44 EST 2002 Septuagint Mark 6:22 Dear ers,I bow to the superior wisdom of Carl and Steven. If Carl hasn’t seenanything like it in 50 years of teaching Greek and Steven doesn’t get iteither, it must merely be a fantasy of mine. I withdraw…
Mark 6:12-13 [was ‘do participles govern whole sentence or just next main verb?’] Jonathan Ryder jpr1001 at cam.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 07:31:48 EDT 1999 do participles govern whole sentence or just next main verb? Mark 6:12-13 [was ‘do participles govern whole sentence or just next main verb?’] “Carl W. Conrad” wrote:> > Jonathan Ryder…
MK 14:41 APECEI c stirling bartholomew cc.constantine at worldnet.att.net Mon Jun 4 17:01:21 EDT 2001 Which textbook & Greek exercises+consideration of real use Luke 23:43 – the punctuation of the verse In MK 14:41 we find what looks like a one word clause APECEI.R.H. Gundry (Mark, Eerdmans 1993) suggests that APECEI in MK 14:41is…
TA in Mark 2:1 Richard A. Creighton richard.creighton at moore.edu.au Thu May 27 23:54:57 EDT 1999 New email list!… IXTHUS Mark 2:1 contains the phrase TA PROS THN QURAN – Zerwick/Grosvenortranslate this as “space near the door”.How is the TA functioning here?Are there other examples of the definite article being used in this kindof…
[] Mark 10:11-12 Stuart Wolf largopt at tampabay.rr.com Sat Feb 14 15:38:43 EST 2004 [] Still confused on Aspect [] Mark 10:11-12 Greetings;Does the Present tense of MOICAW in Mk 10:11 and 12 indicate an on-going adultery, for the rest of one’s life? One would expect an Aorist, if the second marriage nullifies the…
[] Mark 5:9 Singular explained as Plural? Mitch Larramore mitchlarramore at yahoo.com Thu Dec 22 20:30:14 EST 2005 [] Mark 2:19 DUNAMAI [] Mark 5:9 Singular explained as Plural? KAI EPHRWTA AUTON, TI ONOMA SOI; KAI LEGEI AUTWiLEGIWN ONOMA MOI, hOTI POLLOI ESMEN.Is not LEGEI singular? And isn’t MOI singular? TheMOI…POLLOI at first looked…
Mark 2:16 hOI GRAMMATEIS TWN FARISAIWN Jonathan Robie jonathan.robie at sagus.com Mon May 17 17:08:49 EDT 1999 Glassman Mark 2:16 hOI GRAMMATEIS TWN FARISAIWN Here’s a phrase that has thrown me for a loop. The Scribes of thePharisees? I thought they were two distinct groups.How is this to be understood?Jonathan___________________________________________________________________________Jonathan Robiejwrobie at mindspring.comLittle Greek…
Mk 16:2 Constituent Order c stirling bartholomew cc.constantine at worldnet.att.net Tue Jun 26 14:57:36 EDT 2001 Sorry The text of Luke 2:2 and word order Anyone have anything to say about why ANATEILANTOS TOU hHLIOU shows up atthe end of the clause in Mk 16:2. Mark piles up so many adverbials in thisclause that…
Mark 3:16-19: what a strange construction! Moon-Ryul Jung moon at sogang.ac.kr Wed Jan 8 06:56:00 EST 2003 Sorry for Repeat Mark 3:16-19: what a strange construction! Hi all, I am reading Mark. This time it goes well. I hope to finish it this timeMark 3:16 – 19:[KAI EPOIHSEN TOUS DWDEKA](1) KAI EPEQHKEN ONOMA TWi SIMONI…
[] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu Tue Feb 4 06:08:55 EST 2003 [] SE in Mark 1:24 [] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN Forwarded for Harry Jones:From: “Harry W. Jones” <hwjones2 at earthlink.net>Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:17:57 -0800Hello All,My question concerns KAI EN TAIS CERSIN OFEIS AROUSIN.I have noticed that some translations…
Ekklesia Tony Calman tcalman at optusnet.com.au Sun May 9 19:10:57 EDT 1999 dia + genitive John 5:26 I have been considering the difference between a “congregation” and a “church” (if any)? The hebrew words qahal or edah seems to be translated by the word ekklesia in the LXX, which is often translated by the…
Mark ch 15, v. 2 HoLogos at aol.com HoLogos at aol.com Tue Jun 9 01:43:29 EDT 1998 BHS Received!! BHS Received!! Dear George,Thank’s for your e-mail. I had brought up the SU LEGEIS of Jesus to Pilate inMark 15:2.To answer your question as to whether my question had been answered: EdgarFoster suggested a book…
Wes Wood wrote:
Thanks for the responses the indirect question makes perfect sense. And the second part I don’t have a problem with either. I am meaning authorial foreshadowing inside the pericope, however. Nothing more than the author tipping his hand to what is going to happen in the narrative.
It’s a completely ordinary phrase as Timothy pointed out. It is easy to find its usage as simply “arise” in places like Mat 2:13, 9:19 26:46, Mark 10:49 14:42,. It clearly implies rising from a settled position, but nothing more. In fact, Luke 6:8 makes very clear what “εγειρε”/”εγειραι” in Mark 3:3 means.
Statistics: Posted by David Lim — June 17th, 2014, 7:18 am
The synoptic parallel provides one an opportunity to do that.
Matthew 15:34 wrote:Καὶ λέγει αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς, Πόσους ἄρτους ἔχετε;
Statistics: Posted by Stephen Hughes — September 22nd, 2017, 3:07 pm
I’ve been looking at the usage of καταλῦσαι in Luke 19:7 and am a bit stumped why it’s translated as “to be the guest of” (or a variation thereof) instead of to abolish, destroy, dissolve, etc.,
In light of the overall passage, it doesn’t make sense to use a derivative of abolish but I don’t understand either why it deviates so much from the other usages (i.e. Matthew 5:17, 61; Acts 5:39)
Statistics: Posted by Matt Lahey — June 19th, 2017, 6:47 pm
SBL:
καὶ ἤνεγκαν αὐτὸν πρὸς αὐτόν. καὶ ἰδὼν αὐτὸν τὸ πνεῦμα εὐθὺς συνεσπάραξεν αὐτόν, καὶ πεσὼν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἐκυλίετο ἀφρίζων.
I can see two ways of reading this – either the boy is the one who ἰδὼν Jesus, or the spirit within him (so masc. part. is CAS).
Looking at the other participles in the verse, they clearly describe physical actions that the boy is doing (πεσὼν … ἀφρίζων), so my initial instinct is to read ἰδὼν as referring to the boy, and not the spirit. Would then account for the mention of τὸ πνεῦμα as giving a separate subject for the action of the verb συνεσπάραξεν.
A third option would be to not think of the two as separate entities, and so it’s not a case of “either/or” but “both”, as they’re rather intertwined at this moment.
I see a similar thing in Mark 9:26 – καὶ κράξας καὶ πολλὰ σπαράξας ἐξῆλθεν – the participles describe the physical actions of the boy, and the verb is the action that the spirit does (‘And after crying out and convulsing violently, it departed’).
Thoughts?
Statistics: Posted by S Walch — February 18th, 2017, 8:30 pm
If anything, I’d simply like to add here what I think is really pretty clear from the outset: the problem being raised here and the solution(s) being offered don’t hinge on the phrasing of the Greek text.
Statistics: Posted by cwconrad — June 6th, 2014, 1:22 pm
cwconrad wrote:Stephen Hughes wrote:Mark 4:26-29 wrote:Καὶ ἔλεγεν, Οὕτως ἐστὶν ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ θεοῦ, ὡς ἐὰν ἄνθρωπος βάλῃ τὸν σπόρον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, καὶ καθεύδῃ καὶ ἐγείρηται νύκτα καὶ ἡμέραν, καὶ ὁ σπόρος βλαστάνῃ καὶ μηκύνηται ὡς οὐκ οἶδεν αὐτός. Αὐτομάτη γὰρ ἡ γῆ καρποφορεῖ, πρῶτον χόρτον, εἶτα στάχυν, εἶτα πλήρη σῖτον ἐν τῷ στάχυϊ. Ὅταν δὲ παραδῷ ὁ καρπός, εὐθέως ἀποστέλλει τὸ δρέπανον, ὅτι παρέστηκεν ὁ θερισμός.In BDAG the meaning is παραδῷ “allow”, while the natural sense in the sequence if growth is ”ripen”.
Any thoughts either way?
παραδῷ is aorist; “ripen” is a process word. I’d think that idiomatic English would have to be “is ripe” or better, “is ready for harvest (has yielded its crop)”.
I think Carl’s gloss, “yield”, is the most helpful thing on this thread thus far. “When the crop yields…” It does fit nicely with the more popular usages of the verb.
Statistics: Posted by Jordan Day — May 10th, 2014, 12:15 pm
