deep-seek is slightly better (careful!) :===The expression τί ἐμοὶ καὶ σοί (or variations like τί ἐμοὶ καὶ σοί, γύναι) is a well-attested phrase in ancient Greek, appearing in both biblical and non-biblical contexts. Below is a synthesis of the eviden…
Here is Xenophon:ὥσπερ εἰ εἴποις ὅτι δεῖ γράμματα ἐπίστασθαι τὸν μέλλοντα δυνήσεσθαι τὰ ὑπαγορευόμενα γράφειν καὶ τὰ γεγραμμένα ἀναγιγνώσκειν.Not that it gets us very far. He needs to know his letters to be able to both γράφειν and ἀναγιγνώσκειν, but …
thank you both for so clear answers with useful extra info!!I think my stumbling block was that I read ἐάν as εἰ + ἄν and I thought it was a conditional clause, and not only as ἄν as you suggest mwh. I see now that my “Classical Greek Grammar” §50.3 d…
In legal Papyri-documents sometimes at the end appear sentences like:εγραψεν υπερ αυτου Διονυσιος … ο προγεγραμμενος δια το αυτον μη επιστασθαι γραμματα.(Dionysius, who has written the foregoing text,, has written for him, as he is illiterate; Tebtuni…
I like Mitch’s explanation.It seems so. The sense of τοὺς ἐχθρούς μου ἔδωκάς μοι νῶτον would be: You made my enemies turn their back to me (=run away from me).Statistics: Posted by tico — Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:02 pm
Here’s Polybius with an aorist of the same verb, taking a dative object. After laying out the main points of the treaty:Ταῦτα μὲν οὖν ὑπετυπώθη τότε κεφαλαιωδῶς περὶ τῶν διαλύσεων· ἔδει δὲ τούτοις πρῶτον μὲν εὐδοκῆσαι τοὺς Αἰτωλούς, μετὰ δὲ ταῦτα γίνε…
καὶ τοὺς ἐχθρούς μου ἔδωκάς μοι νῶτον καὶ τοὺς μισοῦντάς με ἐξωλόθρευσας. -Ps. 17.41Here ἔδωκάς seems to take two accusative objects (ἐχθρούς, νῶτον) along with the dative indirect object (μοι) . How should this be understood?Statistics: Posted by C…
BTW the reason I want an *exhaustive* concordance of the GNT is so I can find instances of various pronouns and particles in NT verses. Then I can use suchverses to help me remember what a particular pronoun or particle means. For example, if I can fi…
Yeah, I had a post written up about the earlier πεπηγμένος, but happily Chad’s post covered it first.I can get closer to the spelling, if you’d like.So αναγκη βιαια – irresistible necessity – would be great, but you would have to imagine a dropped ver…
The physical coins themselves would seem to be their own witness, imo. And the NT is witness to the usage when it was written, slightly later than Jesus’ lifetime.But if only a papyrus will do, this is dated to “29 – 2 BC?”, for whatever the dating is…
Yeah, I had a post written up about the earlier πεπηγμένος, but happily Chad’s post covered it first.I can get closer to the spelling, if you’d like.So αναγκη βιαια – irresistible necessity – would be great, but you would have to imagine a dropped ver…
Any chance you’re willing to share the published paper in the p oxy volume?I’ll be in touch with you by email.Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:42 pm
Hi Joel, I don’t have a facsimile of the manuscript itself, but maybe it’s online: if anyone wanted to track it down, the 1983 critical edition describes manuscript C as sitting in the National Library of Austria, ref. ‘hist. gr. 63’, dated 1319, on p…
So in “The New Strong’s Complete Dictionary of Bible Words,” it has listings of words in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic (Chaldean), along with English translations of each word. I found a few Greek words including three that coincide with what other peopl…
ἀλλʼ ἤ seems to mean “but rather” in those verses. IMO, that would make ἤ here somewhat similar to the LSJ A.I.3 “or else, otherwise”, although not quite the same thing.How do the English bibles translate these verses?Statistics: Posted by jeidsath — …
Well, we’ve gotten to “demand back” and an implied subject at least, I should be happy…Is the agent really specifically conceived of as God in the Wisdom verse? The τὸ τῆς ψυχῆς ἀπαιτηθεὶς χρέος is even more similar than Luke 12:20 to τὸ τέλος ὁ χρό…
I see we have ἀλλ’ ἢ not only in 4 but already in 2, and it’s well attested in the Septuagint. It’s an oddity—seemingly no different from simple ἀλλά in sense, though it’s sometimes said to be “stronger.” I think there may well have been some sort of …
Joel has tried to explain this to you patiently and so have I, although perhaps not so patiently. You look at what you call ”Scripture” (for me it’s just an old text) as if it were a puzzle that can be forced to mean anything you want by assembling th…
Uses ἐκτρέφω to mean παρέχω ‘of natural objects, yield, produce’ and so παρέσχετο με “provided to me” and the verse should begin with νομός ‘pasture’ (not τόπος).Statistics: Posted by Saboi — Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:43 am
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The adverbial construction απο + adverb with suffix -θεν (απο μακροθεν, απο πριωθεν, απο εμπροσθεν etc.) occurs about 20 times in LXX; in the NT απο μακροθεν 12 times, once απο ανωθεν in Mk 15:38), and in some Churchfathers.In Homer (Iliad 12:205 a…